2 December: workshop 4

The fourth of the four workshops took place on Friday 2 December and brought together the seven discussion leaders and their reference group members.

The session was a valuable opportunity for attendees to share views and the insight collected to date.

Watch the films below to see what Helena Herklots – Services Director, Age UK; Councillor David Rogers – Chair of the community wellbeing board at the Local Government Association (LGA) ; and Gordon Morris – Managing Director of Commercial Services, Age UK Enterprises have to say about the engagement process and the workshops.

Key points

Helena Herklots

  • The ambition and vision to make care and support for carers and anyone who needs support personal to the individual has never been more important
  • More needs to be done to increase people’s experience of care and support

Key themes emerging

  • If we want to give people choice and control over their lives then getting access to independent advice is at the heart of this
  • How do we enable people to get a better sense of what to plan for the future

Going forward

  • There are a lot of similarities between themes coming out of the individual priorities workstream
  • the Dilnot Commission provides the building blocks for developing a fairer care and support system.

David Rogers

  • We have an ageing society with more and more people growing to an older age
  • The demand for social care is growing year on year
  • We need to completely change the way we think about social care issues
  • We need to think about what the right balance is between what is funded by the state and what is funded by individuals
  • We need to look at a system that brings in the important voluntary role of families and unpaid carers
  • People from lots of different backgrounds have been involved in this process and in the Future Forum. This method of working and involving a larger cross section of people will be an important way of working in the future.

Gordon Morris

Key things to have emerged that are essential to making this work:

  • Clarity around information and advice
  • Making it clear to people what the future costs of care are likely to involve
  • From a financial services point of view we want to provide a range of products and services meet the cost of this care.

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One Response to 2 December: workshop 4

  1. Pat Cull says:

    I am a retired nurse, and folowing marriage returned to nursin part time. Whenmany years ago my husband was made redundant, with what at that time was a fair payment, we started a small business ina the ~South West.
    My parents died, and my single Aunt needed some care, so wshe came to live with us. Our two boysleft home, but the youngest returned when he fell ill to schizophrenia, long term. Now my aunt, and my husband are deceased. My eldest son has made a life for himself and always kept in contact. My youngest son has attempted topursue his life through college with some success, but with e[isodic breakdowns in hospital and then at home. As rehabilitation of those with severe and enduring mental conditiions has long been neglected the closure of what used to be available in the institutions was not replaced in the community. My nursing training has been of inestimable help[ ienabling me to provide rehabilitationin arts and crafts.
    After my husband’s death I was unable for some time after unable to afford the upkeep of my home, and moved tobe near my eldest son. The younger son has been good at coping with his mental disability, but would be unable to undertake work in the accepted sense. I am now in need of care myself sue to age (86) and physical deterioration. This obviously causes me a degree of anxiety regarding my younger son’s future. At present his brotheris on his second marriage, as his first wife died. He is carrying his burden well, but in the present economic climate it is far from easy. I try to help in whatever way I am stillable, but this is minimal..
    It is surely time that the Government and in particular the Department of Health looked more closely into mental health problems.
    1. Research to find the cause.
    2. Better medical care.
    3. Better Social Care.
    4. Provision of rehabilitation to the best ability of the individual patient.
    5. Carer’s breaks. (I believe this is coming)
    6. Recognition tha patients do not all have the insight to recognise their illness
    7. Much better understanding by an unsympathetic public, and the media.


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