Posted by: Ian Abbott-Donnelly
Public Sector Information Holder: Natural England
Information Asset: Boundaries of LNRs, NNRs and SSSIs and other green infrastructure
I have asked for this information through the normal processes and have discovered that despite open OS initiative this data is still unavailable for re-use and is subject to Natural England copyright limitations.
Below is a summary of the history... one day the information tax payers pay for can be used by everyone. An organisation that cannot share its data will be seen as adding little value.
Thank you for your various emails clarifying your position on the question of your using data derived or interpreted from Natural England owned data on Google applications. Having now received feedback from Natural England’s Intellectual Property manager and our Ordnance Survey main contact, I would like to clarify where Natural England sits with this.
Obviously, in an ideal world, Natural England owned data would be available to use freely on whatever internet mapping platform the customer requires. This would both promote Natural England’s work to a wider audience, and be in keeping with the current trends to put publically funded data into the public domain.
However, due to ongoing issues with Ordnance Survey and Google, which I have outlined in previous emails (the clause in question is in Google’s Terms of Service, 11.1, which gives Google more rights than OS are comfortable with) Natural England cannot publish OS derived data on externally available Google platforms, which is not ideal, but is the situation in which we are in.
Your suggestion to redigitise Natural England’s data using an OS OpenData source or a Google-compatible source (in this case Infoterra’s aerial photographs) are unacceptable to Natural England on the following grounds:
3.2 (d) The Supplied Data is not copied, adapted, varied or modified except to the extent and only to the extent to which any of those acts are expressly permitted by this Licence.
3.4 The End User shall take all reasonable steps to prevent unauthorised use and exploitation of Supplied Data by any person, including, without limitation, its employees.
2 f. Any product derived from the Data must be acknowledged as Natural England copyright using the following statement:
"© Natural England [Year], reproduced with the permission of Natural England, www.naturalengland.org.uk/copyright.” If the Data contains derived data additional third party statements may also be required (see below).
3 b. You may not copy or otherwise reproduce the Data without our written consent.
3. In addition, a point you have made yourself, once the data is in the public domain it will be seen by some as the de facto boundaries for the sites you show, and I have reservations about the merit of digitising this data either using a less detailed OS product or using the Infoterra aerial imagery on Google, as, from examination of the sample data you sent and from knowledge of the scale of the products involved, this will not be as accurate as Ordnance Survey MasterMap, nor will it be updated with the same regularity as our data, which could potentially lead to decisions made with erroneous information.
4. Further, using our data on Google constitutes commercial use as there is advertising contained within the Google interface, for which you would require a commercial licence from Natural England.
Our OS contact says:
“Having spoken with the Contracts Manager for Central Government I am advised that publishing redigitised boundaries (via OpenData) onto the free Google API still breeches our terms and conditions, as the original polygons were derived from PGA products.”
Geographic Services, Evidence Team, Natural England
My ideal solution
Boundary data that can be openly used on Google Earth
What I would do
Use it to help cities understand their sustainability performance by combining this data with social and economic information which is location dependent.
Posted by:Mike Coupar
Public Sector Information Holder: Skills Development Scotland/Jobcentre Plus
Information Asset: Details of all Training for Work providers/courses within Scotland (preferably UK as a whole)
As someone who was long term unemployed and in receipt of Jobseekers Allowance, I wanted to establish which courses were available for me to attend under the Training for Work programme in order to retrain and get back to work. The Training for Work programme provides training opportunities for unemployed people to undertake work focused training as requested by local employers in each area to gain skills necessary to fill vacancies.
I found it extremely difficult to establish which courses were available for unemployed people to undertake via the Training for Work programme although after numerous meetings, telephone calls, letters (e-mails), and internet searches,I was fortunate enough to have had it organised for me to attend an excellent Training for Work course which I am confident will enable me to return to work (upon completion) and I hope to use my web development experience to make the process much more accessible to other people which I think would be of huge benefit given the economic situation we are faced with.
My ideal solution
For the data to be provided in XML format via an API/webservice or simply contained within CSV file(s) with updated files made accessible on a regular basis.
Any standardised format would be fine though as I would write an import routine to populate a website database.
What I would do
I wish to create a website whereby people who are unemployed (and anyone else), will not be faced with the difficulty I had and can easily establish which training/re-training opportunities exist within their local area, within Scotland (and preferably UK as a whole).
I would create a dynamic website with a searchable database which would provide information on retraining opportunities throughout Scotland (and preferably UK as whole).