Join our webchat on the NHS and public health

NHS Future Forum workstream leads Ash Soni and Vicky Bailey will be live online from 11.45am on Thursday 24 November, to answer your questions about public health and the NHS.

The Government has asked the NHS Future Forum to continue its conversations with patients, service users and professionals to provide independent advice on four important themes, including public health.

The Forum’s final report to Government will be published in December.

Ash and Vicky are keen to hear your comments on these specific questions:

  • How do we make sure that improving the public’s health remains at the heart of the NHS?
  • What more should the NHS do to improve the health and wellbeing of its
    own staff?
  • How can we ensure that the public’s health remains at the heart of the NHS?
  • What role could NHS and health and care professionals effectively play in systematically delivering improved population health outcomes, including
    tackling inequalities?
  • What are the mechanisms that commissioners, providers and the wider system could use to help support professionals in improving outcomes?
  • How can we ensure that the NHS’s role in the public’s health aligns with the roles of Public Health England and local authorities?
  • How can the NHS contribute to people’s health and wellbeing in its role as a
    large employer?

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9 Responses to Join our webchat on the NHS and public health

  1. why does one consultant tell you one thing and another something else
    my sister in law, god rest her soul once told me once you get to seventy
    doctors dont want to know. you work all your life pay all your dues then cast aside, how right she was

  2. Dr Vicci Owen-Smith says:

    Sorry I cannot make the webchat as I at our Board meeting. In Stockport we believe that for public health to be at the heart of the NHS and for NHS health care professionals to systematically deliver improved population health outcomes, including tackling inequalities and prevention of ill health, public health needs to be integral to Clinical Commissioning Groups. We have been assuming this model in the development of our CCG and would be happy to share our experiences.

  3. Chris says:

    Shame this wasn’t circulated consistently to Public Health Professionals working in the NHS so we could join in.

    It almost looks like you didn’t want to hear our opinion.

    (and yes, I’m sure you did send it to some chief execs, but clearly no consistent effort to spread message to Public Health Community)

  4. Andrea says:

    Sorry missed live chat. If you look at yesterdays guardian there are many examples in the public sector awards of good practice, for example the complexneeds award went to Tukes part of Navigo for its service user employment scheme which enables mh users to be involved in the active running of their own wards including acute awards, the scheme is now being extended to include those with physical and learning disabilties. ‘ we have found a simple recipe of giving them a role and making them feel good about themselves can do so much more for them’ and for the NHS and its staff morale. Intiatives like this help break down barriers, tackle inequalities through inclusion as opposed to exclusion:people helping each other, making work easier and more rewarding for those who like to treat patients with the upmost of respect as opposed to allowing disrespect to multiply through the general approach which is to get rid of patients/ staff especially those that are outspoken /unhappy or considered not worthwhile.Staff members should be trained in why a humanistic and caring approach works instead of treating patients as useless , and a burgeoning resource burden, who they have to get rid of,like mounting rubbish.

  5. simon says:

    as more than 50% of our public health staff have allready been made redundant I doubt it will remain at the heart of the NHS which will focus on treatment rather than prevention. Especially when skilled staff have left, public health is in a terrbile state due to the cuts and so called reforms. Over the next 18 months of so called transition we won’t be doing much as we have no money, no idea who will commission what and no clear direction.

  6. Mike says:

    Why can’t the NHS be run along the lines of the BBC. The BBC is a public body, it receives the bulk of it’s funding from the License Fee (Tax). But it does sell it services such as programmes, R&D and broadcasting services outside of the UK and receives revenue from it. Why can’t the NHS be structured and sell it’s R&D, pharmaceuticals and medical expertise to the wider world?

    • Rod Whiteley says:

      The NHS is already structured that way. For years, NHS foundation trusts have been able to generate extra income by providing private health care. It has been proposed that the present restrictions on this kind of activity be removed, but that will not require any structural change.

      Whether the BBC is a good model is another matter. The BBC enjoys plenty of controversy of its own around its funding, commercial activity, quality of service and trustworthiness.

  7. patrick o'brien says:

    I was a nurse graduating in 1983 and trained by British trained nurses. I did my training as a student nurse employed by a large hospital and realeased every 6 weeks for lectures. In the hospital I trained in, in the three years I worked there we never had a post operative infection. The wards were kept at the highest levels of cleanliness by hospital employed and trianed cleaners and the beds and bedside furniture was cleaned by nurses using hot soapy water covering the whole bed from top to bottom. When we attended a patient we washed our hands with hot soapy water and when we changed a dressing or attended to a patient we did it asceptically using prepacked trays which had everything in them to carry out the staff. I have been a patient in this country on a number of occassions and can honestly say that the stardards of care are appauling. If nursing training was taken back into hospitals and the student nurses were employed by the hospitals, they would learn both on the job and at the university and still come out with a degree as well as ethical and clinical excellence. We reported to registered nurses only and the enrolled nurses were only employed in care homes and to carry out menial work on the wards. All of our work was overseen by the registered nurses or sisters as they were called and at any time one of the nurse educators could turn up and watch what we were doing. Even Matron would turn up out of the blue and observe us and having the power to hire and fire she would guide us but never tolerate poor standards of care. It wasn’t till my final year that I saw my first case of MRSA and then it was only one. The patient was isolated immediately from the rest of the ward and only the appointed nurses worked in the isolation bay. When the patient went home the bay was cleaned from top to bottom with hot soapy water and all subsequent patients who were cared for in that ward after it was cleaned, we never saw another case of the infection. The training of both doctors and nurses in this country is lacking and needs urgently to be reviewed and put right. I have seen politians visiting hospitals and speaking to patients and observed them washing their hands with the gel and I have to say, I would have been fired if I washed my hands as they did. I worked in theatres both here and in Australia and I have to say that the standards of hand washing, gowning and gloving are the worse I’ve ever seen. Nowhere in the world where I have worked have I seen such poor behaviour which I have no doubt contribute to post operative infections. If student nurses were employed in hospitals and cared for patients under the tutalage of registered nurses and attended their lectures at the university setting, More nurses could be employed, standards would be higher and primary health care would be so much better.

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