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The Rt. Hon. Patricia Hewitt

The Coming of Age

The Rt. Hon. Patricia Hewitt

British Academy, London


Tuesday, October 7, 2003


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Good morning.

20 years ago I worked for Age Concern, looking at the issues arising from our ageing population. I'm delighted to return to the fold now, just two weeks before the close of our consultation - the first ever consultation on age discrimination.

The IPPR, another former employer of mine, has today published new research.

I warmly welcome their contribution to the debate, and congratulate them for attracting Brendan Barber, Howard Davies and Tess Harding to speak here today. Let me also thank the Third Age Employment Network for sponsoring today's event. And the Nuffield Foundation for having the foresight for sponsoring the work the IPPR has done on this.

Huge interest is now gathering around this issue of how we enable everyone in this country to meet their full potential - for themselves and their families.

Profound changes are taking place.

First, to our economy.
China's joined the WTO; India's producing a quarter of a million science and IT graduates a year; and ten more countries are joining the EU next year. Meaning more opportunities, but more competition as well.

Plus, technology and consumer tastes are now changing so fast that product life-cycles - once four or five years from design to decline - are now just one or two years.

Second, to our society.
With

  • Life expectancy rising one year every four years;

  • Men now taking on a third of childcare duties;

  • Half all new jobs over the next ten years going to ethnic minorities.

In the face of this, you'd think we'd be pulling the stops out. But, in fact, we're pulling the plug out - on huge chunks of the workforce.

  • Women are still held back with a pay gap of 19%.

  • African and some Asian communities still suffer far higher levels of unemployment than white groups.

  • Disabled and gay people continue to suffer discrimination.

Since the 70s, gender and racial equality have headed the discrimination agenda. Ageism has been seen as milder - not as serious or socially divisive.

But it's the most common form of discrimination. I know it's not restricted to the workplace. But work is a very important part of our lives. And this is a good place to start.

  • Four in ten discrimination cases are age related.

  • 1 in 2 people have either suffered, or seen someone else suffer, age discrimination at work.

Plus, despite us living longer and healthier, the problem is getting worse.

There's no reason why we should be thrown on the scrap heap at a certain age.

Emmeline Pankhurst was 60 when she won her first fight for votes for women, Mick Jagger's 60 and still drawing the crowds in; Mahatma Ghandi was 77 when he won independence for India; and Christopher Wren was 79 when he finished St Paul's Cathedral.

Just yesterday, a British scientist set to turn 70 on Thursday, Sir Peter Mansfield, jointly won the Nobel Prize for his work on magnetic resonance imaging - which is reducing the pain of surgery for millions every year.

Age discrimination costs us £16 billion a year in lost GDP and a further £3-5 billion in extra benefits and lost taxes.

It's difficult to know where to draw the line on age discrimination… 45? 50? 55? I always thought age was ten years older than I was. Whatever it is, as a fifty four year old, I'm shocked that 1 in 3 over 45s are out of work.

An appalling waste. No wonder Victor Meldrew had such a chip on his shoulder.

It's not just an "older" issue too. Younger people are sullied with a perception that they're inexperienced, unreliable, irresponsible, more likely to throw "sickies" and lacking organisational skills.

We're all working together to tackle this. In a modern partnership between individuals, business and Government. The way we took forward our work life balance reforms.

And, just as we saw with work life balance, age is now rising to the top of the agenda for our best businesses.

Sainsburys started developing older worker plans back in 1986. They introduced a scheme so workers could draw partially on their pension whilst reducing their hours, and still pay into their pension. It's been a great incentive to stay. 15% of the workforce is over 50. 1% over 65.

Tesco employs 7,500 over 60s. Mark Roberts, their HR manager says,

"Customers tell us that they like having a mix of staff of different ages working within our stores. Additionally, our staff also say that they enjoy working in an age diverse environment."

BT has an Age Champion and flexible arrangements to let people retire gradually, as part of a career/life planning strategy.

Many other businesses, large and small, are finding their own ways. Different companies find different solutions. There are excellent examples of best practice out there.

But there are also some bad businesses out there. I know from the very many letters I receive

  • Like the person who had the phone slammed down on them by a prospective employer when they said how old they were;

  • Or the man moved across to admin work when he had management skills;

  • Or the woman who was denied training because their employer didn't think she were worth investing in…

We want to raise more to the standard of the best.

I can announce today that next year we will be launching a nationwide campaign, working with businesses to help gear up for the introduction of the new age discrimination legislation. Building on best practice. Preparing for the new laws.

Promoting culture change is vital. Because we know that legislation is not on its own enough. We need the two working hand in hand.

Legislation sometimes gets the loud minority ranting about political correctness, positive discrimination and employing people who are not up to the job. It's not about any of this. It's about the right people in the right jobs.

I'm quite happy to take these critics on. Equality of opportunity is fundamental to this Government. It's a passion for equality that first brought me into politics.

When I was at the civil rights group, Liberty, I brought the first UK test case of indirect discrimination under the Sex Discrimination Act. It involved a civil servant, Belinda Price, who was barred from recruitment at junior management level because she was "too old" at 35!
We argued, successfully, that in career terms she was in fact younger than a 35-year old man because she'd taken some years out to bring up children. We won the case.
Many of you will have seen last week's Rutherford and Bentley case and drawn comparisons.
Rutherford and Bentley claimed that the upper age limits on unfair dismissal and statutory redundancy payments discriminated against men. An employment tribunal found in their favour but we appealed that decision.
Before anyone says that this poacher has turned into an unsportsmanlike gamekeeper, let me be clear why we appealed.
We did so not because we believe the upper age limits should be retained. We did so because their case was flawed.
And, as you know, because we are consulting on new policy.
One proposal is that employees should be able to seek redress for unfair dismissal at any age, although retirement at a justifiable age should be a fair reason for dismissal.
We are also consulting on age-related aspects of the redundancy payments scheme.
These important issues should not be decided by case law but by Parliament. On the basis of full consultation. And based on the experience in countries like the United States where, not only do they not have a default age, they also don't have any unfair dismissal laws.
I'm a passionate believer in justice and equality. But I'm also a passionate believer in the primary role of Parliament in policy making and we will await the outcome of the consultation before we put our proposals to Parliament.

Consultation was key to the success of our work life balance reforms. Consultation will be key to the success of our age reforms as well.

I've listened and I'm listening to the views of the IPPR and others on the controversial issue of whether employers should be able to retire their employees compulsorily at or after age 70 without having to justify their decision.

What's known as the "default age".

Some people think that Government, the DTI or I have closed the door on this issue. I must say, clearly and categorically that we have an open mind.

We will look at this carefully. Learning from international experience, but also making sure we come up with a package that reflects our national traditions.

Another issue raised is around pay and non-pay benefits, like whether employers should be able to give extra leave after long service. It rewards loyalty and is a cheap and easy way of cheering up staff, but it could be indirect discrimination. So we want to know what people think.

And what about graduate recruitment schemes? Of course graduates come in all shapes, sizes and ages these days, but should there be an upper age limit for recruitment? That could only ever work in very limited circumstances. But are there circumstances, usually to do with the return on investment in training and development, where that makes business sense?

To close, age has come of age.

The challenge now is to make sure everyone has the opportunity to contribute to and benefit from rising prosperity.

Creating a stronger economy. A stronger society. A society and an economy in which everyone has the opportunity to reach their full potential. For themselves and their families.




 

 


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